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46. John DAMP (25)(259) (103) (260)(261) (262)(263) (264) Photo was born on May 22 1858 in Newchurch, Isle of Wight, England. (24)(25) (265)(266) (262)(267) (105)(268) Both John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were 17 years old when they were married in 1875 [and so were born about 1858.]. -- Betty Hummel

John Damp was born on the Isle of Wight, England. -- Gloria Warren

The tombstone of John and Allice L. Damp says John, 1858-1949 and Alice L., 1858-1945. -- Tombstone of Damps

John Damp was born on May 22, maybe 1857. -- Ann Damp.

John Damp was born on May 22, 1858. -- Syd & Sheila Damp.

John Damp was born May 22, 1858, in Newchurch in the Sub-district of Ryde in the County of Southhampton, Isle of Wight, England. His father was James Damp whose occupation was tailor master. His mother was Ellen Damp, formerly Scott. John Damp's birth was registered June 19, 1858 by Robert Ellman, Register. -- Birth certificate.

John Damp was born in Newchurch, Isle of Wight, England. -- 1881 Census.

The John Damp who was married to Alice Whittingstall was one of 9 children born to [another and father named] John Damp born 1822 and Jane single name not known. Their names were Alfred, Ellen, Charlotte, George, John, Edwin, Charles, Ann, Frank. Son George was born in 1856, two years before son John [who must have been born in 1858] [Note: Katie Damp has these children from John Damp b. 1822 and Jane, and not any of these children were named Damp]. -- Michael Damp, Katie Damp.

He immigrated in 1907 to U.S.. He died in 1949 in PA. (24)(265) John Damp lived until he was 93 years old, [and so must have died about 1951].

The tombstone of John and Alice L. Damp says John, 1858-1949 and Alice L., 1858-1945. -- Tombstone of Damps
The John Damp who was married to Alice Whittingstall was one of 9 children born to [another and father named] John Damp born 1822 and Jane single name not known. Their names were Alfred, Ellen, Charlotte, George, John, Edwin, Charles, Ann, Frank. Son George was born two years before son John. [Win Apel does not believe this is the same John Damp.] -- Michael Damp.

John Damp was a stable boy in Queen Victoria's stable (the Royal Mews) when he was 17 years old. It was at the Osborne House on the Isle of Wight, Queen Victoria's castle there. It was Victoria and Albert's getaway house on the island. -- Gloria Warren.

John Damp's occupation was listed as "groom" at the time of his marriage in 1875 and in the 1881 census. -- Marriage certificate, 1881 census.

John Damp was a coachman for one of the ladies in waiting for Queen Victoria at the Osborne House on the Isle of Wight. -- Marge Richards Pain, Dorothy letter, 4/22/98

As of 1878 when his son Charles Edward was born, John Damp's profession was given as "groom." -- Birth Registry

John Damp came to America and to Pittsburgh, PA, in 1907. He got a job driving a dray and sent for his wife. -- 1935 newspaper.

John Damp came to America because Queen Victoria had died. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.
He was married to Alice Louisa WHETINGSTALL (WHITTINGSTALL) on Jun 27 1875 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England.(24) (263) (268) John Damp married Alice Louisa Whittingstall on June 27, 1875 at the Bible Christian Chapel Sandown, District of Isle of Wight, County of Hants, England. The witnesses were Ann Eliza Dare and Jessie Thomas Vanstone. The minister was J.B. Vanstone. Alfred Tutte was the Registrar. John Damp's occupation was groom. At the time of the marriage, John Damp lived at Hill Street, Ryde, and Alice Whittingstall lived at John Street, Ryde. John Damp's father was James Damp, tailor, and Alice Whittingstall's father was Thomas Whittingstall, waiter. -- Marriage certificate.

John Damp married Alice Louisa Whittingstall on June 27, 1875, at Sandown. -- Syd & Sheila Damp.

There is a 1935 Life magazine describing their 50th wedding anniversary. -- Hummel.
John Damp and Alice Whittingstall lived at Swanmore Road, Ryde, Isle of Wight, in 1878 when their son, Charles Edward, was born. -- Birth Registry

When John Damp and Alice Whittingstall lived on the Isle of Wight, they lived on Spencer Road in a little English cottage. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

John and Alice Damp lived in Ryde, Isle of Wight, on Surrey Street as of April 1876, on Swanmore Road as of June 1878, on Green Street as of March 1880, on Arthur Street in 1887, on Newport Street as of Oct. 1890 and Dec. 1891, at 16 Newport Street as of Feb. 1892, July 1893, and Feb. 1895, and at 2 Menders Road as of Jan. 1899. -- Ryde Burial Records, IOW index cards.

The Damp familiy never moved to London. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow letter, 4/22/98.

All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. The name of the church was All Saints Church. -- Postcard from Dorothy MacMuldrow, D. MacMuldrow interview.

John Damp and Alice Whittingstall came from the Isle of Wight in England. -- Connie Damp

Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Pain knew 16 of them, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

In 1935 John and Alice Damp, parents of 23 [actually 22, as was discovered later] children, celebrated their 60th wedding anniversary. Twelve of the 16 living children were present. "The celebration was held in Moon Grove, North Park, [Pittsburgh], because the [Damp] home at 418 Lorenz Ave., Elliott, would not accommodate the crowd of well-wishers. In addition to the sons and daughters, 36 grandchildren and 27 great-grandchildren were to attend. The [Damps] were married in Isle of Wight in 1875. They went to London [which Dorothy Ebel says is incorrect] , where Mr. [Damp] became coachman to one of Queen Victoria's ladies in waiting. Later he took care of the saddle horses for the royal family." He came to America, and Pittsburgh, in 1907. He got a job driving a dray and sent for his wife. She gathered together her 15 children and took a boat for New York. The crossing took a week and was a difficult time for Mrs. [Damp]. Looking after 15 children, several mere babies, was a distracting job at home, but on a steamboat crossing the Atlantic Ocean it was much worse. It was worthwhile, though, Mrs. [Damp] told her numerous descendants today. Although never wealthy, the [Damps] prospered in Pittsburgh and were happy. Seven of the 23 children that were born to them have died. Four are at too great a distance to attend today's celebration. John [Damp] Jr. of New York sent his mother $60 as a sixtieth anniversary present." -- 1935 newspaper

In 1938 John and Alice Damp celebrated their 63th wedding anniversary. Each was 80 years old. Married June 27, 1875, in England, when both were 17 years old, and moved to America thirty years ago [which would have been 1908]. Mr. Damp was a coach driver in England. Mrs. Damp apologized that Mr. Damp used a cane; he fell and hurt his leg, and did not want to see a doctor. Mrs. Damp works every day in the garden and walk often to the movies. Fourteen children (6 sons and 8 daughters) still living. Sixteen were brought over from England when they immigrated. -- 1938 newspaper

In 1941 John and Alice Damp celebrated their 66th wedding anniversary. John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were married in a little church on the Isle of Wight on Sunday morning, June 1875. [Since the date of the paper was June 27, 1941, and it said 66 years ago today, thus they were married on June 25, 1875.] Both 17, the couple rode across the English countryside in John's horse cart. In a vine-covered church overlooking the Channel at Sandown, they became man and wife and then rode home to tell their parents. They now live at 414 Lorenz Avenue in Elliott. Both are 83 years old. "Many persons are astonished at such a large family, but John and I have been delighted," Mrs. Damp said. Seven sons and seven daughters attended. They had 23 children, brought 16 with them to America 35 year ago [1907], and two have died since they have lived in Pittsburgh. -- 1941 newspaper

After Queen Victoria died, John Damp, who had been a coachman for her ladies in waiting, came to America with his four oldest boys and with Ada Damp's husband [George Warren]. John Damp and the boys worked and then sent Alice Whittingstall money to come to America first class. Since Alice would not leave Ada, her oldest daughter, and her grandchildren, they ALL came first class. They landed at Ellis Island, and the inspector got so interested in Mrs. Damp and all the children and grandchildren that Margaret Victoria, one of the younger Damp children, entered the U.S. with scarlet fever. Mrs. Damp has wrapped her all up in a shawl and pushed her head down [so she could not be seen]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow letter, 4/22/98

John Damp and Alice Whittingstall lived in Elliott, PA, which was 10 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, just beyond the section called the West End. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow letter, 4/22/98

John and Elizabeth [Ada] Damp had 23 children. Dorothy Myers used to visit them when John and Elizabeth [Ada] lived with one of their kids in Elliott, PA, near Ingemar, south of Pittsburgh, PA. Ada was the oldest of 23. -- Jim & Dot Miller

May Warren married Henry Frey. Henry's sister Ann married Sidney Damp. After May Warren died, Henry and his young son, Henry Jr., moved in with his sister Ann [Damp] and her husband Sidney Damp in Elliott, PA. This household also included John Damp and his wife Alice Whittingstall. It was quite the household. In the summer, though, it was much easier, as John and Alice would travel by train to visit Charles Damp on Long Island, Alice Damp Tingley in CT, and Fred Damp in MA. They would be be away about 3 months. Margaret Victoria Damp and Sidney Damp and his family would always see them off and always meet them when they came home. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow letter, 4/29/98.

Gloria Warren recalls that John Damp and his wife were very short, maybe only about five feet tall. One day when Gloria went over to Aunt Ann [Frey, nee Damp] or Uncle Sid [Damp]'s place, where John and his wife were living at the time, John and his wife were sitting on the couch holding hands. Alice had a doll for Gloria, which was a black doll. Black dolls were rare at that time. Alice asked what she was going to name it, and Gloria said Rosie Damp. -- Gloria Warren

For a long time, every summer, in order to give Sidney and Ann Damp relief, John Damp and his wife would be put on a train to New York to visit Charlie Damp, John and Alice's son. Then, after that, they would go to Connecticut to the home of Alice Damp and her husband, George Tingley. Then, they would go to Fred Damp's place in Massachusetts for a while also, before finally coming back to Pittsburgh. They would be gone for most of June, July and August. Dorothy MacMuldrow remembers going down to the train station to see them off each summer. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

47. Alice Louisa WHETINGSTALL (WHITTINGSTALL)(25) (259)(269) (270)(103) (260)(261) (263)(264) (271) Photo was born on Dec 3 1858 in Cowes, Isle of Wight, England.(24) (265) (272) Alice Louisa Whetingstall was born December 3, 1858 at 21 High Street, West Cowes, [Isle of Wight, England]. Her parents were Thomas Whetingstall and Elizabeth Whetingstall formerly Fryer. Thomas Whetingstall was a waiter. -- Birth Certificate of Alice Whetingstall.

Born in 1858. -- Syd & Sheila Damp.

Both John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were 17 years old when they were married in 1875. -- Betty Hummel.

The tombstone of John and Alice L. Damp says John, 1858-1949 and Alice L., 1858-1945. -- Tombstone of Damps.

Alice L. Damp, wife of John Damp, was born in Cowes, Isle of Wight, England, and was 22 years old during the 1881 census [putting her birth year as 1858 or 1859]. -- 1881 census.

Alice Louisa Damp was 50 years old on October 4, 1908, when she landed on Ellis Island, NY [and thus was born between October 5, 1858 and October 4, 1859]. -- Ellis Island Records.
She immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) She died in 1945 in PA.(24) (265) Alice Whittingstall (Gramma Damp) lived until she was 87 years old. -- Betty Hummel

The tombstone of John and Alice L. Damp says John, 1858-1949 and Alice L., 1858-1945. -- Tombstone of Damps
Gloria Warren says the name may have been Woodingstahl. One newspaper article in 1941 says is was Whittingstall. So also do most other sources, and so the latter is probably correct. -- Gloria Warren.

Alice Whittingstall's middle name was Louise. -- Obituary of F.J. Damp, Marge Richards Pain.

Alice Whittingstall's middle name was Louisa. -- Alice's marriage certificate, Birth certificate of son, Ellis Island Records.

Some time after 1907, after her husband, John Damp, had come to America and Pittsburgh, his wife gathered her 15 children that she had at the time and took a boat from England to New York. "The crossing took a week and was a difficult time for Mrs. [Damp]." -- 1935 newspaper.

Alice Whittingstall and her 15 children came over from Portsmith, England, on the same ship that Ada Ena Damp, came over with her first six or seven children. Ada was Alice's oldest daughter, and both had "babes in arms." The husbands of both Alice and Ada were already in America. -- Gloria Warren.

According to Ellis Island Records, Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], whose ethnicity was English, and who was female and married, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York," and arrived October 4, 1908, aged 50. Also on this ship were her children, Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship were her married daughter, Ada Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records.

Margaret Victoria Damp, one of Alice's children, always thought that Alice's family "had money," because it was probably very hard to support 22-23 kids with the salary that John Damp made as a chauffeur. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Sixteen [not 15] children came to the U.S. -- Marge Richards Pain.

Gertrude Jessie Damp and Margaret Victoria Damp, children of Alice Whittingstall, knew Alice's recipe for wine, which wine was "out of this world." -- Marge Richards Pain.

Alice lived to celebrate her 70th wedding anniversary [in 1945]. She never had any major surgery, and was a very remarkable woman. -- Dorothy letter, 4/22/98.
Children were:

child23 i. Ada Ena (Elizabeth) DAMP.
child ii. Harry George DAMP(101) (273) was born on Dec 5 1876 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England. (104) Harry George Damp was born Dec. 5, 1876. -- Damp Family Register.

John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were married on the Isle of Wright, England, as there appears to be no indication that they lived anywhere else before coming to America, and as they came to America in 1907, after all the children were born, all of their 22 or 23 children must have been born on the Isle of Wight.
He was baptized on Dec 10 1876 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) Margaret Victoria Damp attended a church in Ryde, Isle of Wight. Her daughter, Dorothy, visited the church in June 1987. Dorothy still has a Bible that Margaret Victoria Damp received at this church when she was age 9. All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in this church. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Harry, son of John, groom, and Alice Damp, was baptized in Ryde All Saints Church on 10 Dec. 1876. -- IOW index card.

He died before Jun 29 1878 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (103)(273) Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S.[in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Harry George Damp, son of John Damp of Ryde, a coachman, and Alice Louisa, his wife, died at age 1 on Swanmore Road, Ryde, Isle of Wight, on or before Jun. 29, 1878. The burial ceremony was performed by A.B. Burnett. Harry was buried June 29, 1878, in Ryde Cemetery, Grave No. 2254. -- Ryde Burial Records.

There was no Harry George Damp living with John and Alice Damp, and their children Ada, Charles, Ellen and Fred, during the 1881 census. -- 1881 census.
Name.

child iii. Charles (Charlie) Edward (Edwin) DAMP(101) (274) (103)(261) was born on Jan 13 1878 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England.(275) (276) (260)(104) (105)(277) (31) Charles Edward Damp was born Jan. 13, 1878, Swanmore Road, Ryde, Isle of Wight, Sub-District Ryde in the County of Southampton. His father was John Damp, and his mother was Alice Louisa Damp formerly Whittingstall. His father was a groom. The birth was registered on February 19, 1878 by Robert Ellman, Registrar in the Registration District of Isle of Wight. -- Birth Registry.

Charles E. Damp was born Jan 13 [18?], 1878 in England. -- C.E. Damp Journal.

Charles Edward Damp was born Jan. 15, 1878. -- Damp Family Register.

Charles E. Damp was born Jan. 15, 1878, in England. -- Calendar genealogy.

Charles E. Damp was born in Ryde, Isle of Wight, and was 3 years old during the 1881 census [and thus born in 1877 or 1878]. -- 1881 census.

Charles Edwin [not Edward] Damp was 30 years old when he landed on Ellis Island, NY, on August 24, 1907, [and thus was born between August 24, 1877, and August 23, 1878]. -- Ellis Island Records.

Charles Edward Damp was 43 on September 20, 1921. -- Certificate of Naturalization.
He was baptized on Apr 21 1878 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) Margaret Victoria Damp attended a church in Ryde, Isle of Wight. Her daughter, Dorothy, visited the church in June 1987. Dorothy still has a Bible that Margaret Victoria Damp received at this church when she was age 9. All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in this church. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Charles Edward Damp, son of John and Alice, was baptized in Ryde All Saints 21 April 1878. -- IOW index card.
He emigrated before Aug 24 1907 from Cherbourg, Manche, France. (31) He immigrated on Aug 24 1907 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) Charles Edwin Damp, male and married, of English ethnicity and residing in London, England, left Cherbourg, Manche, France on the ship "St. Paul," and landed at Ellis Island, NY, on August 24, 1907, age 30. -- Ellis Island Records.
He was naturalized on Sep 20 1921 in New York City, NY. (276) Charles Edward Damp, age 43, height 5' 5", color white, complexion dark, brown eyes and brown hair, and living at 143 W. 96th Street, NY, NY, was naturalized on September 20, 1921. He was previously a subject of England. His wife's name was Helga, age 30, living also at 143 W. 96th Street. Minor children were Albert age 19, Arthur age 16, and Dorothy age 13, all living at same address. -- Certificate of Naturalization.
He died in 1960.(264) (277)(278) (278) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.

Charles E. Damp wrote in his journal March 19, 1958, while aged 80 [so lived at least that old]. -- Journal.

Died in 1960 according to tombstone. -- Blunden.
Charles Edward Damp is the grandfather of the husband of Anne Wolford Damp.

When Charles Edward Damp was living at 5 Leigh Cottages, Wharf Lane, Rickmansworth, U.D., England, in 1901 when his son Albert was born, he was a "Coachman Domestic Service." -- Birth Registry.

Charlie Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Uncle Charlie [Damp]'s first wife died when Margaret Victoria Damp, Charlie's sister and Dorothy's mother, was 13 or 15 [about 1912]. At that time Margaret was sent by train to New York from Pittsburgh by Alice Whittingstall to take care of her brother Charlie's children, 3 nephews and a niece [presumably the four children of Charles Damp]. From the stories Margaret told her daughter Dorothy the task was not easy because Charlie was tightfisted with his money. -- Dorothy letter #3, Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Charles Damp, born in 1878, had three children. He lived on Long Island. Margaret Victoria Damp, Charlie's sister, was sent at age 13 by Alice Whittingstall, their mother, to take care of Charlie's three children after his wife [Sophia] died. When Charles remarried, he wanted Victoria to stay, but she refused. The rich lady for whom Charles worked agreed that Victoria (Maggie) should go back to Pittsburgh, but refused to let her go until she had furnished Maggie with a brand new wardrobe of clothes. -- Dorothy letter, 4/22/98; Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Charlie Damp lived in New York. -- Marge Richards Pain.

child iv. Ellen (Nell) May DAMP(101) (264)(103) was born on Feb 7 1879 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England.(104) (105) Ellen May Damp was born Feb. 17, 1879. -- Damp Family Register.

Ellen M. Damp was born in Ryde, Isle of Wight, and was 2 years old during the 1881 census [and thus born in 1878 or 1879]. -- 1881 census.

As John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were married on the Isle of Wright, England, as there appears to be no indication that they lived anywhere else before coming to America, and as they came to America in 1907, after all the children were born, all of their 22 or 23 children must have been born on the Isle of Wight.
She was baptized on Mar 23 1879 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) Margaret Victoria Damp attended a church in Ryde, Isle of Wight. Her daughter, Dorothy, visited the church in June 1987. Dorothy still has a Bible that Margaret Victoria Damp received at this church when she was age 9. All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in this church. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Helen Mary Damp, d. of John and Alice, was baptized in Ryde A.S. 3/23/1879. -- IOW index card.
She died before 1996.(103) (264) Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S.[in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell (Ellen May), Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Name. -- Anne Wolford.

Nell Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Marge Richards Pain lists as one of the 16 Damp children she knew as Nell, who married a Saywood and had one child. -- [Since the Damp children had such strange nicknames, but no one else lists her, Nell could be someone else, but whom? Maybe she is child #23.] -- Marge Richards.

Nell Damp married a Saywood, had one child, and lived in California. -- Marge Richard Price

Ellen May Damp was known as Nell. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.

child v. William Thomas DAMP(103) was born on Mar 24 1880 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England. (104) William Thomas Damp was born Mar. 24, 1880. -- Damp Family Register.

As John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were married on the Isle of Wright, England, as there appears to be no indication that they lived anywhere else before coming to America, and as they came to America in 1907, after all the children were born, all of their 22 or 23 children must have been born on the Isle of Wight.

He was baptized on Mar 24 1880 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) Margaret Victoria Damp attended a church in Ryde, Isle of Wight. Her daughter, Dorothy, visited the church in June 1987. Dorothy still has a Bible that Margaret Victoria Damp received at this church when she was age 9. All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in this church. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

William Thomas Damp, son of John and Alice Damp, was baptized in Ryde A.S. on 24 March 1880. -- IOW index card.
He died after 1990. William Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

William Damp lived in Pittsburgh and had two children. -- Marge Richards Pain.

child vi. William Thomas DAMP(105) was born before Mar 28 1880 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England. (273) Wiliam Thomas Damp, son of John Damp of Ryde, groom, and Alice, his wife, died at age 12 hours on Green Street, Ryde. He was buried on Mar. 28, 1880, in Ryde Cemetery, Grave No. 2228. -- Ryde Burial Records.
He died before Mar 28 1880 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England. (273)(105) Wiliam Thomas Damp, son of John Damp of Ryde, groom, and Alice, his wife, died at age 12 hours on Green Street, Ryde. He was buried on Mar. 28, 1880, in Ryde Cemetery, Grave No. 2228. -- Ryde Burial Records.

William Thomas Damp (or whatever his name was) must have died before 1881, because the only children living with John and Alice Damp in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, during the 1881 census were Ada age 5, Charles age 3, Ellen age 2 and Frederick age 1 month. -- 1881 census.
William Thomas Damp (or whatever his name was) must have died before 1881, because the only children living with John and Alice Damp in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, during the 1881 census were Ada age 5, Charles age 3, Ellen age 2 and Frederick age 1 month. -- 1881 census.

child vii. Frederick (Fred) John DAMP(101) (108)(270) (103) was born on Feb 23 1881 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England.(270) (104)(105) (31) F.J. Damp was a native of the Isle of Wight, England. -- Obituary of Frederick J. Damp

Frederick John Damp was born Feb. 23, 1881. -- Damp Family Register.

Frederick J. Damp was born in Ryde, Isle of Wight, and was 1 month old during the 1881 census [and thus must have been born in 1881]. -- 1881 census.

Frederick John Damp was 26 years old when he landed at Ellis Island, NY, on September 1, 1906, [and thus must have been born between September 1, 1880, and August 31, 1881]. --Ellis Island Records.

Frederick Damp was 21 years old when he landed at Ellis Island, NY, on December 7, 1902, [and thus must have been born between December 7, 1891, and December 6, 1892]. --Ellis Island Records.

He was baptized on Mar 27 1881 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Frederich John Damp, s. of John and Alice, was baptized in Ryde A.S. on 27 March 1881. -- IOW index card.
He emigrated before Dec 7 1902 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) He immigrated on Dec 7 1902 to Ellis Island, NY.(31) Frederick John Damp, male and single, of English ethnicity and residing in Ayte, . . . w, sailed from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "Philadelphia,' and landed on Ellis Island, NY, on September 1, 1906, age 26. -- Ellis Island Records.

Frederick Damp, male and single, of English ethnicity and residing in England, sailed from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "Philadelphia,' and landed on Ellis Island, NY, on December 7, 1902, age 21. [This is same date and ship as Annie Damp, his sister.]-- Ellis Island Records.
He died in 1955 in Pittsfield, MA, Pittsfield General Hospital. (270) F.J. Damp, son of John and Alice Damp, died at age 74 at the Pittsfield General Hospital [and so must have died in about 1955, given his birth date.] -- Obituary of F.J. Damp
He 's funeral was in 1955 in MA.(270) Funeral services were held Wednesday afternoon at 1st Trinity Episcopoal Church with the rector [?] the Rev. Robert S. [?] Whitman officiating, assisted by Canon Stokes son, the Rev. Anson [?] Phelps Stokes, rector of St. Bartholomew's Church, Episcopal, in New York City. Burial wil be in the Swickbridge [?] Cemetery. -- Obituary of F.J. Damp
Frederick John Damp was a child of John and Alice Damp. -- Anne Wolford

Fred Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Maybe the John Damp Jr. referred to in the newspaper articles on his parents' wedding anniversaries is Frederick John Damp. -- Mildred Warren

Fred Damp lived in Lennox, MA. -- Marge Richards Pain.

"F. J. Damp Dies at 74. Rites Wednesday For Superintendent of Stokes Estate. Lenox--Frederick J. Damp, 74, of Brook Haven Farm, [MA] well known superintendent of Canon Atson [?] Phelps Stokes estate on the Interlaken road, died last night at Pittsfield General Hospital following a long illness. Funeral services will be held Wednesday afternoon at 1st Trinity Episcopoal Church with the rector [?] the Rev. Robert S. [?] Whitman officiating, assisted by Canon Stokes son, the Rev. Anson [?] Phelps Stokes, rector of St. Bartholomew's Church, Episcopal, in New York City. Burial wil be in the Swickbridge [?] Cemetery. Worked at Shadowbrook. A native of the Isle of Wight, Mr. Damp was the son of John Damp and Alice Louise Damp. He came to this country 51 years ago [in about 1904] to be an employee at Shadowbrook, now the St. Stanislaus Seminary of the Society of Jesus. Shadowbrook was built by Canon Stokes' father. After being employed at the Shadowbrook Estate, Mr. Damp became superintendent of Canon Stokes Brook Farm, adjacent to the Jesuit [?] property. A former member of the Lenox Horticultural Society, he was an exhibitor at the annual Lenox Flower Show for many years. Mr. Damp was married to Brenda [?] Peirson on Nov. 14, 1909. She died in October, 1945. They had no children. Mr. Damp leaves [two?] sisters and four brothers. The body is in Rohe [?] Funeral Home, Main St., where friends may call tomorrow evening from 7 to 9. In lieu of flowers friends are asked to make contributions in Mr. Damp's memory to the ____ Visiting Nurses' Assn." -- Obituary of F.J. Damp

child viii. Arthur (Mitchell) James DAMP(24) (101)(103) (264) was born on Oct 2 1882 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England.(104) (31) Arthur James Damp was born Oct. 2, 1882. -- Damp Family Register.

Arthur J. Damp landed on Ellis Island, NY, on October 4, 1908, age 26 [and thus was born between October 5, 1881, and October 4, 1882]. -- Ellis Island Records.
He was baptized on Nov 5 1882 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church. (106)(107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Arthur James Damp, s. of John and Alice Damp, was baptized at Ryde A.S. 5 Nov. 1882. -- IOW index card.
He emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) He immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY.(31) Arthur J. Damp, male and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York,' and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 26. Also on the ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], his mother, aged 50, and his siblings Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was his married sister, Ada Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records.
He died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
During the depression Arthur Damp would take a burlap sack up to Squirrel Hill in Pittsburgh, PA, would work washing windows and dig gardens, and would fill the sack with old clothes and bring them back to the family. [This may be a different Arthur Damp.] -- Betty Hummel

Name was Arthur James Damp. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Arthur (nicknamed Mitchell) Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Arthur Damp lived in Pittsburgh, was the only child who never married, and was always called Mitchell. -- Marge Richards.

Arthur Damp, called Mitchell, drank a lot and never married. He lived in Pittsburgh, PA, all his life. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

When Margaret and Gertrude Damp found Presque Isle in Erie, PA, they fell in love with it because it reminded them so much of the Isle of Wight--sandy beach and water. Thus, their kids travelled from Pittsburgh to Erie a lot when they were kids--almost every weekend. They would leave at 4 am, and were certain to always pack a hatchet. Margaret would cook breakfast, lunch and supper on a fire built on the beach. One year they decided to take Arthur (Uncle Mitchell) Damp with them, as he was being pretty good then. Bob Richards, Gert's husband, had a Ford with a rumble seat in it. Young Bob, the son, was in the rumble seat with Arthur, and asked if his mother had packed his bathing suit. She said she had, but Arthur said, "Bathing suit, hell. I need a fur coat." Those rides to Erie were cold! -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

child ix. Annie Amelia DAMP(24) (101)(103) was born on Dec 12 1883 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104)(31) Annie Amelia Damp was born Dec. 12, 1883.-- Damp Family Register.

Annie Damp, age 18, landed at Ellis Island, NY, on 7 Dec. 1902, [and thus was born between Dec. 7, 1884, and Dec. 6, 1885]. -- Ellis Island Records.
She was baptized on Jan 27 1884 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Annie Amelia Damp, d. of John and Alice, was baptized in Ryde A.S. 27 Jan. 1884. -- IOW index card.
She emigrated before Dec 7 1902 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) She immigrated on Dec 7 1902 to Ellis Island, NY.(31) Annie Damp, female and single, of English ethnicity and residing in England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "Philadelphia," and landed at Ellis Island, NY, on 7 Dec. 1902, age 18. [She came with her brother Frederick Damp.] -- Ellis Island Records.
She died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Name, "Aunt Ann." -- Betty Hummel

Annie Amelia Damp. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Annie Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Annie Damp lived in Pittsburgh, PA, had 2 children, and married a Cook. -- Marge Richards Pain.


child x. Infant Boy DAMP was born on Jan 11 1885 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104) An unknown/unnamed son was born Jan. 11, 1885, who lived 3 hours. -- Damp Family Register.
He died on Jan 11 1885 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (101)(103) The son born January 11, 1885, lived three hours. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S.[in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.


child xi. Willfred (Wilfred) Harold (Bill) DAMP(101) (117) (264) was born on Jan 2 1886.(104) Wilfred Harold Damp was born Jan. 2, 1886. -- Damp Family Register.
He was baptized on Feb 14 1886 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Wilfrid Harold Damp, s. of John & Alice, was baptized at Ryde A.S. 14 Feb. 1886. -- IOW index card.
He died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Dennis Victor Damp's grandfather was Willfred Harold Damp. -- Dennis Damp

Willfred Harold Damp is on list of the 23 children. -- Anne Damp

Wilfred Harold Damp was called "Bill". -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Wilfred Harold Damp was shellshocked during WWI, and placed in the Mayview State Hospital in Pittsburgh, PA. After that, his wife, Florence, would have nothing to do with him. One of Wilfred's sisters, though, visited him every Thursday. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.



child xii. Albert Edward (Luke) DAMP(103) (264) was born on May 25 1887 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England.(104) (31) Albert Edward Damp was born May 25, 1887. -- Damp Family Register.

Albert E. Damp, age 24, landed at Ellis Island, NY, on July 12, 1911, [and thus must have been born between July 12, 1886, and July 11, 1887]. -- Ellis Island Record.
He was baptized on Jun 26 1887 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Albert Edward Damp, s. of John and Alice of Arthur Street, was baptized at Ryde A.S. 26 June 1887. -- IOW index card.
He emigrated before Jul 12 1911 from Cherbourg, Manche, France. (31) He died before 1996 in U.S..(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
He immigrated sept 1 1906 and Jul 12 1911 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) Albert Edw. Damp, male and single, of English ethnicity and residing in Ayte, . . . w, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, on the ship Philadelphia, and arrived at Ellis Island, NY, on September 1, 1906, age 19. This was the same place of residence, ship and arrival date as Frederick John Damp. -- Ellis Island Records.

Albert E. Damp, male and single, of English ethnicity and residing in Ryde, England, left Cherbourg, Manche, France, on the ship Oceanic, and arrived at Ellis Island, NY, on July 12, 1911, age 24. -- Ellis Island Records.

Edward (nickname Luke) Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Edward Damp [query whether this is Albert Edward Damp or not] was always known as Luke, lived in Pittsburgh, and had 5 children. -- Marge Richards.

Uncle Luke, real name Albert Edward, was a character, as witty as could be. Like so many of the Damp men, he worked for a rich family. Although a chauffeur, one day he was asked to be the butler for a dinner. As he was carrying in a jello salad, it started moving around like jello will, and he kept saying, "Whoa, ya bugger! Whoa, ya bugger!" as he was taking it into the dining room, like he was driving a horse-pulled buggy. Maggie Victoria Damp would get her children in stiches laughing, telling this story. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

child xiii. Infant Girl DAMP(101) was born on Apr 7 1888 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104) An unnamed or unknown daughter was born April 7, 1888, who lived 20 minutes. -- Damp Family Register.
She died on Apr 7 1888.(101) (103) Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S.[in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Date of death was April 7, 1888. -- Anne Wolford Damp

A daughter born April 7, 1888, lived 20 minutes. -- Anne Wolford Damp

child xiv. Florence Kate DAMP(101) was born on Mar 19 1889 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104) Florence Kate Damp was born Mar. 19, 1889. -- Damp Family Register.
She was baptized on Apr 14 1889 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(107) (106) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Florence Kate Damp, d. of John & Alice Damp, was baptized at Ryde A.S. Church on 14 April 1887. -- IOW index card.
She died before Dec 31 1891 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England. (103)(264) (273) Marge Richards knew only one of the children who died in England and did not come to America with John Damp and Alice Whittingstall, and that was Florence, who died at about age six of measles, which her mother, Gertrude (one of the 22 children) told Marge. -- Marge Richards.

Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S.[in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Dorothy MacMuldrow believes that Florence Kate was two years old when she died in England, [and thus would have died in about 1891]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Florence Kate Damp, daughter of John and alce Damp of Newport Street, Ryde, Isle of Wight, died at age 2 years on Newport Street, Ryde. J.C. Turner performed the burial ceremony. Florence was buried Dec. 31, 1891, in Ryde Cemetery, Grave No. 862, after being removed from Ryde Parish. -- Ryde Burial Records.

Name. -- Anne Wolford Damp

child xv. Alice Emma DAMP(103) (279) was born on Sep 14 1890 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104)(31) Alice Emma Damp was born on Sep. 14, 1890 [probably in Ryde on the Isle of Wight in England]. -- Damp Family Register.

Alice Emma Damp was 18 years old when she landed on Ellis Island, NY, on May 19, 1906, [and thus was born between May 19, 1888, and May 18, 1889]. -- Ellis Island Records.
She was baptized on Oct 4 1890 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Alice Emma Damp, d. of John & Alice of Newport Street, was baptized at Ryde A.S. Church on 4 Oct. 1890. -- IOW index card.
She emigrated before May 19 1906 from England. (31) She immigrated on May 19 1906 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) Alice Emma Damp, English, female, single, and residing in Ryde, Isle of Wight, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, U.K, on the ship "New York" and landed at Ellis Island, NY, on May 19, 1906, age 18. -- Ellis Island Records.
She died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Alice Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

John Damp and Alice Whittingstall would visit Alice Damp (m. Tingley) in Connecticut in the summers. [Thus, Alice Damp lived there after May Warren died before 1934 and lived there before Alice Whittingstall died in 1945..] -- Dorothy letter, 4/29/98.

child xvi. Harry Ernest (John) DAMP(101) (274)(259) (103) (264) was born between 1890 and Jan 29 1892 in England. (104)(31) Harry Ernest Damp was born Jan. 29, 1893. -- Damp Family Register.

Henry Ernest Damp landed on Ellis Island, NY, October 4, 1908, age 17, [and thus was born between October 5, 1890, and October 4, 1891]. -- Ellis Island Records.
He was baptized on Feb 28 1892 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Henry Ernest Damp, s. of John & Alice of 16 Newport Street, was baptized 28 Feb. 1892 in Ryde A.S. Church. -- IOW index card.

He emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) He immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY. Henry Ernest Damp, male and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York,' and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 17. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], his mother, aged 50, and her children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records.
He died in 1996.(280) (264) "The last one of the Damp family died this fall. Harry Ernest (we called him Uncle John). Seems the Damp family gave the darnest nicknames. It happened that his son had a copy of the 'Damp Family Register.' and sent me one. Thought you would like a copy. Your grandfather was Charles Edward. My mother was Margaret Victoria. We got such a thrill out of finding this. Hope you enjoy it too." -- Letter from Dorothy #4

Harry Ernest was the last of the Damp children to die. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Harry Ernest Damp. -- Anne Wolford

John (whose real name was Harry) Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Harry Ernest Damp, called Uncle John, was the last of the 23 children to die. He was always rather sour and hard to get along with. His mother called him "trouble." So we say the "Lord doesn't want him and neither does the Devil", so we think he will live to be 100 or more. -- Dorothy letter #3

John Damp, Jr. was alive in 1935, and gave his mother $60 then for her 60th wedding anniversary. [However, since no other source lists any "John" except the nickname for Harry Ernest Damp, the John Damp, Jr. referred to in the article was probably Harry Ernest Damp.] -- 1935 newspaper.

John Damp, whose real name was Harry, lived in Pittsburgh, PA, and had one son, Harry, Jr. -- Marge Richards.

During the latter part of his life, Harry Earnest (John) Damp worked for a Mrs. Gillespie, the richest woman in PA. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.


child xvii. Kathleen (Kate) Nora DAMP(101) (103) was born on Jun 29 1893. (104)(31) Kathleen Nora Damp was born June 29, 1893. -- Damp Family Register.

Kathleen Nora Damp was 15 years old when she landed on Ellis Island, NY, on October 4, 1908, [and thus was born between October 5, 1892, and October 4, 1893]. -- Ellis Island Records.
She was baptized on Jul 23 1893 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Kathleen Norah, d. of John and Alice Damp of 10 Newport St., was baptized at Ryde A.S. on 23 July 1893. -- IOW index card.
She emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) She immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY.(31) Kathleen Nora Damp, female and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York,' and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 15. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], the mother, aged 50, and her children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records.
She died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Name. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Kate Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Kate Damp lived in Pittsburgh, PA, married a Barker, and had three children. -- Marge Richards Pain.

child xviii. Gertrude (Gertie) Jessie DAMP(101) (103)(264) was born on Jan 1 1895 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104)(264) (31) Gertrude Jessie Damp was born Jan. 1, 1895. -- Damp Family Register.

Gertrude Jessie Damp was born Jan. 1, 1895, on the Isle of Wight. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Gertrude J. Damp was age 12 when she arrived on Ellis Island, NY, [and thus was born between October 5, 1895, and October 4, 1896]. -- Ellis Island Records.
She was baptized on Feb 24 1895 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Gertrude Jessie Damp, d. of John and Alice, 16 Newport Street, was baptized in Ryde A.S. Church on 24 Feb. 1895. -- IOW index card.
She emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. She immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) Gertrude J. Damp, female and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York," and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 12. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], the mother, aged 50, and her children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records.
She died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
Gertrude Jessie Damp. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Gertrude Jessir Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Gertrude Jessie Damp lived in Pittsburgh, PA, married a Richards, and had three children. Marge is the youngest. -- Marge Richards.

When Margaret and Gertrude Damp found Presque Isle in Erie, PA, they fell in love with it because it reminded them so much of the Isle of Wight--sandy beach and water. Thus, their kids travelled from Pittsburgh to Erie a lot when they were kids--almost every weekend. They would leave at 4 am, and were certain to always pack a hatchet. Margaret would cook breakfast, lunch and supper on a fire built on the beach. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

child xix. Infant Girl DAMP(101) was born on Jan 17 1896 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104) An unnamed or unknown daughter was born Jan. 17, 1896, and lived one hour. -- Damp Family Register.
She died on Jan 17 1896.(103) Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S.[in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, John (real name Harry), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.
Daughter born Jan. 17, 1896, lived just one hour. -- Anne Wolford Damp

child xx. Margaret (Maggie) Victoria DAMP(101) (106)(274) (103) (261)(264) Photo was born on Feb 16 1897 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (281)(104) (31) Margaret Victoria Damp was born Feb. 16, 1897. -- Connie Damp, Damp Family Register.

Maggie V. Damp was age 10 when she landed on Ellis Island, NY, on October 4, 1908, [and thus was born between October 5, 1997, and October 4, 1898]. -- Ellis Island Records.

She was baptized on Jan 15 1899 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (264)(107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy

The name of the church was Ryde Parish Church on the Isle of Wight. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Margaret Victoria Damp was baptized on January 15, 1899, by J.C. Turner in the Ryde Parish Church on the Isle of Wight, according to Maggie's Bible in the possession of Dorothy MacMuldrow. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Maggie Victoria and Sydney Gordon Damp, children of John and Alice of 2 Menders Road, Ryde, was baptized at Ryde A.S. Church on 15 January 1899. -- IOW index card.
She emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) She immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY.(31) Maggie V. Damp, female and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York," and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 10. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], the mother, aged 50, and her children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records. She died in Dec 1975. (264) Siblings Margaret Victoria Damp and Sidney Damp both had a heart attack on the same day in 1975. Both died that same year in December. Margaret died after Sidney, within a few days of each other. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.
Margaret Victoria Damp. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Margaret Victoria Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Margaret Victoria Damp attended a church in Ryde, Isle of Wight. Her daughter, Dorothy, visited the church in June 1987. Dorothy still has a Bible that Margaret Victoria Damp received at this church when she was age 9. All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in this church. -- Postcard from Dorothy

Uncle Charlie [Damp]'s first wife died when Margaret Victoria Damp, Charlie's sister and Dorothy's mother, was 13 or 15 [about 1912]. At that time Margaret was sent by train to New York from Pittsburgh by Alice Whittingstall to take care of her brother Charlie's children, 3 nephews and a niece [presumably the four children of Charles Damp]. From the stories Margaret told her daughter Dorothy the task was not easy because Charlie was tightfisted with his money. -- Dorothy letter #3, Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Charles Damp, born in 1878, had three children. He lived on Long Island. Margaret Victoria Damp, Charlie's sister, was sent at age 13 by Alice Whittingstall, their mother, to take care of Charlie's three children after his wife [Sophia] died. When Charles remarried, he wanted Victoria to stay, but she refused. The rich lady for whom Charles worked agreed that Victoria (Maggie) should go back to Pittsburgh, but refused to let her go until she had furnished Maggie with a brand new wardrobe of clothes. -- Dorothy letter, 4/22/98; Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Margaret Victoria Damp lived in Pittsburgh, married a MacMuldrow, and had two children. -- Marge Richards.

Margaret Damp was "the glue that held the Damp family together" because she was a very strong character. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Margaret Victoria Damp never learned to drive. So, when her husband died unexpectedly, she told her daughter, Dorothy, that she wanted to learn how to drive. Dorothy then called her brother in law, asking for a good driving school. After getting her enrolled, she learned. Then, when Sidney Damp had cataracts, she drove Sid all over Pittsburgh in the big Buick that she had. No problem. It was a turn of events, her driving for a chauffer! -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

Siblings Margaret Victoria Damp and Sidney Damp both had a heart attack on the same day in 1975. Both died that same year in December. Margaret died after Sidney, within a few days of each other. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

child xxi. Sidney Gordon DAMP(24) (101)(103) (264) was born on Nov 6 1898 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (104)(31) Sidney Gorden Damp was born Nov. 6, 1898. -- Damp Family Register.

Sidney G. Damp arrived on Ellis Island, NY, on October 4, 1908, age 8, [and thus born between October 5, 1899, and October 4, 1900]. -- Ellis Island Records.
He was baptized on Jan 15 1899 in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church.(106) (107) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy.

Maggie Victoria and Sydney Gordon Damp, children of John and Alice of 2 Menders Road, Ryde, was baptized at Ryde A.S. Church on 15 January 1899. -- IOW index card.

He emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. He immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) Syndey G. Damp, male and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York," and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 8. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], the mother, aged 50, and her children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records. He died in Dec 1975.(282) (264) Sidney Gordon Damp, one of the 23 children, lived in Pittsburgh, PA, and died in 1975. -- Dorothy letter

Siblings Margaret Victoria Damp and Sidney Damp both had a heart attack on the same day in 1975. Both died that same year in December. Margaret died after Sidney, within a few days of each other. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow interview.

One of the children was Sid. -- Hummel

Name was Sidney Gorden Damp. -- Anne Wolford Damp

Sidney Gordon Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 1907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards.

Sidney Gordon Damp lived in Pittsburgh and had one child. Grandfather and Granny [John Damp and his wife, Alice Whitttingstall] lived at his house. -- Marge Richards.

Sidney Gordon Damp was a chauffeur. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow intervew.

child xxii. Dorothy (Doll) Winspeare DAMP(101) (103)(261) was born on Sep 4 1901 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (261)(104) (31) Dorothy Winspeare Damp was born Sept. 4, 1901. -- Dorothy letter #5, Damp Family Register.

Dorothy Wa. Damp was age 6 when she arrived in the U.S. on October 4, 1908, [and thus was born between October 5, 1901, and October 4, 1902]. -- Ellis Island Records.

She emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. She immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY. (31) Dorothy Wa. Damp, female and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York," and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 6. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], the mother, aged 50, and her children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6, and Alfred T. Damp, age 5. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records. She died before 1996.(264) Harry Ernest Damp was the last of the Damp children to die [and so all the other children had to have died before 1996]. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow.
She was baptized in Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, All Saints Church. (106) All the children of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall were baptized in a church pictured on a postcard, which church was visited by Dorothy in June 1987. -- Postcard from Dorothy
Full name comes from the list of 23 children, but middle name looks like Winspearl -- Anne Wolford Damp

Middle name is Winspearle. -- Dorothy Ebel.

Dorothy Winspeare Damp. -- Dorothy letter, 4/22/98

Dorothy Winspear Damp is listed as one of the 16 children who came to America, 6 others having died in England: Of the 22 children, Marge Richards Price knew 16, all of which were born in England and came to the U.S. [in 907, according to another source]. The 6 died in England [before 1907]. She ones she knew were Ada, Fred, Annie, Charlie, Alice, Kate, Nell, Sidney Gordon, William, Harry (nicknamed John), Edward (also known as Luke), Arthur, Margaret Victoria, Gertrude Jessie, Dorothy Winspear, and Alfred. [Thus, the ones that died in England were Harry George, Ellen May, Unknown born 1885, Unknown born 1888, Florence Kate, and Unknown born 1896.] -- Marge Richards Pain.

Dorothy Winspear lived in Pittsburgh, PA, marred a Byler, and had no children. -- Marge Richards Pain.

child xxiii. Unknown Girl DAMP(101) (108) was born on Nov 9 1903 in Southampton, Hampshire Co., England. (261)(104) An unknown daughter was born Nov. 9, 1903. -- Dorothy MacMuldrow letter 4/22/98, Damp Family Register.

She died in 2000. A daughter was born Nov. 9, 1903, the 23rd child. -- Anne Wolford Damp.

The 23d child of John Damp and Alice Whittingstall was probably a grandchild, the illegitimate child of one of their 22 children. -- Millie and Gloria Warren.

child xxiv. Alfred T. DAMP(31) was born between Oct 5 1902 and Oct 4 1908 in England.(31) Alfred T. Damp was age 5 when he landed in NY on October 4, 1908, [and thus was born between October 5, 1902, and October 4, 1903]. -- Ellis Island Records.
He emigrated before Oct 4 1908 from Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. (31) He immigrated on Oct 4 1908 to Ellis Island, NY.(31) Alfred T. Damp, male and single, whose ethnicity was English, and who resided in Ryde, England, left Southampton, Southamptonshire, England, UK, on the ship "New York," and arrived October 4, 1908, on Ellis Island, NY, age 5. Relatives on the same ship were Alice Louisa Damp [nee Whetingstall], maybe his mother or grandmother, aged 50, and Alice's children Arthur J. Damp, age 26, Henry Ernest Damp, age 17, Kathleen Nora Damp, age 15, Gertrude J. Damp, age 12, Maggie V. Damp, age 10, Sydney G. Damp, age 8, and Dorothy Wa. Damp, age 6. Also on the ship was Alice's married daughter, Ada Damp Warren, age 33, and Ada's daughter Florence Warren, age 7. -- Ellis Island Records. He died before 2002. Alfred T. Damp is not listed as a child of John Damp and Alice Whetingstall anywhere, but he came over on the same boat as Alice and many of Alice's children. Maybe he was a child of one of Alice's children.